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By Leonard Pitts -My cousin thinks Jeremiah Wright walks on water. He is a minister, my cousin, and for years, whenever I've visited him in Chicago, he has asked the same question: Have I ever attended one of Rev. Wright's services? I owed it to myself, my cousin would say, to hear him speak. Well, I've heard him. Call me unimpressed

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    stephen-johnson3 months ago

    FTA:

    Did he really say an attack on him was an attack on the black church entire? Did he really make those faces and throw that silly salute? Why didn't he just slap his hands together, yell "Dy-no-mite!" and be done with it? Wright came across like drunken Uncle Buddy at the Thanksgiving table, the one who doesn't know he's not funny and won't shut up.

    More to the point, he did not come across like a reverend. Or even a Christian. The heck of it is, he had insightful things to say about culture, about difference, about reconciliation. But the messenger killed the message.

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      rdy2rck3 months ago

      I tend to agree. When I was "awakened" it took several years to find a House of Worship that touched my heart and I just don't like the flamboyant style nor the dogmatic style either.

      I want to Worship Christ in Peace and love and stick to biblical messages of Christ.

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        Klarissa3 months ago

        That is how it should be.

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      Endoscopy3 months ago

      What is repugnant to me is the black liberation theology. They view the entire Bible through the lens of blacks being held down by whites. They say that Jesus was a black man and the Romans were the white people controlling blacks and killing him. To them the entire Bible is a black/white struggle. They ignore the fact that until about 300-400 years ago most slaves were white. Make it seem tamer.

      Something strange is going on on the web. 3 weeks ago the article on wickpedia talked about how black liberation theology was started was gutted and a couple of sites that presented information on it are gone. Seems like some group is trying to tone down the history and views of it.

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        icono13 months ago

        Basic denial takes on several forms; two of which are below.

        Could be a case of 'if it is out of sight then it is out of mind' until this all blows over if it ever will.

        Also we have the idea that... 'if it is not written down then it never existed or happened.' More familiar to the bureaucratic mind set is the old legalistic standby... "With out documentation then nothing can be proved."

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          Dionys3 months ago

          "They ignore the fact that until about 300-400 years ago most slaves were white"

          Wha?

          Sorry. Jesus wasn't a blonde blue-eyed angel. He was a Jew and likely looked a whole lot like the Arabs of today or many of the orthodox Jews. So if you were referring to the 'slaves' of the Bible as white.. Umm.. Not so white.

          Maybe you're ignoring the fact that slavery didn't end too long ago and that practically speaking there is still constant oppression based on race.

          There's no toning down the history and views of Black Liberation theology. There are plenty of scholarly articles and books on the subject. It's a valid theology.

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        Dicax_Maximus3 months ago

        Good find & article SJ....

        My opinion of this man has changed slightly....

        Small man with LARGE chip on his shoulder and an egomaniac...

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          Wolfie20073 months ago

          Rev Wright has become a cartoon and will always be remembered as a buffoon.

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            MacR3 months ago

            Here is the crux of the biscuit, the crux of the apostrophe. While the good ol Rev has the right to spew what ever he wants, to. Just like all the other hate groups can do, well so can he.

            Do we have to listen to it? No we do not. Nor do we have to give the church or him a pass. I do not give a pass to churches that have a white congergation,that spew hate. Why should I give a black church a pass?

            They can think that Jesus and the rest of them in the bible are black. We all know that the Middle East is not black. Oh they are dark people, but, Jesus was a Jew, not from Africa. While they can view whatever they want. It is like all of the churches that view Jesus as a white man. He was not, He was a Jew, and at that time, a Jew living in Israel was as dark as say a person from Mexico or and American Indian or heck even a Hindu Indian. But black??? Not on your life. Funny how both of these hate groups(white and black) put down Jews. Yet Jesus was still a Jew.

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              MacR3 months ago

              This was to go under Endo's reply.

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              Dionys3 months ago

              " I do not give a pass to churches that have a white congergation,that spew hate. Why should I give a black church a pass? "

              This is admirable. Unfortunately it does not reflect the media's approach to such stories. I've seen numerous stories about Wright's speeches and little snippets taken out of context to 'prove' their stories.

              I haven't seen one story about John Hagee (there may be some out there) who's stood with John McCain and endorsed him over Mike Huckabee (a right-wing 'christian' nutter if there ever was one) as the best hope for the evangelicals. What's more, McCain has said he is glad to have his endorsement.

              Put "John Hagee Roman Church Hitler" into YouTube to see him in action. Another of his statements: Hurricane Katrina was God's vengence on the homosexual parade scheduled to occur on that monday.

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            icono13 months ago

            FTA:

            "If you condemn bigotry when it is turned against people like you, but tolerate it when people like you turn it against someone else, you forfeit all claim to the moral high ground. You are a hypocrite acting only from narrow self interest."

            This about sums up the Rev Wright story into a very neat package.

            As the locals say around here; "Nuff said."

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            icono13 months ago

            Good post SJ.

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              RedRiverJ3 months ago

              Most people look upon a Pastor as a leader, a trusted counselor. Even Obama called Wright a mentor. Pastors/mentors tend to influence people that hold them in that position of their life and in their mind. What is questionable to me is Obama never thought his association with this man might cause him problems in his professional life, hence it makes one question his judgement. Oprah Winfrey distanced herself from Wright for that very reason. She knew her audience is mainstream and felt close association with the Reverend could harm her 'business.' One would think that though might have entered Obama's mind not to mention how he might have been extremely distressed that his young, innocent children would hear this and grow up to be racists and Anti-American. In addition a sitting senator should know this kind of thing could be detrimental to his career.

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                Mutainia3 months ago

                You'd think that IF Obama listened to Wright, he'd end up believing that America is the USKKKofA, and, thought, "GAD! If I'm going to be presiding over KKKUSA, I'd better attend a church that doesn't bash whitey." But, he STUCK with that church, making me wonder about his judgement. Maybe he thought the internet wouldn't be so revealing and he could lie about Wright, like he was doing until the internet started exposing the stupidity of Wright?

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                OldHickory3 months ago

                The following is the definition of 'reverend':

                noun: a title of respect for a clergyman

                noun: a member of the clergy and a spiritual leader of the Christian Church

                adjective: worthy of adoration or reverence

                Does this definition apply to 'reverend' Wright, 'reverend' Jackson or 'reverend' Sharpton?

                These three stooges are about as reverent as I am....not at all.

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                  slate3 months ago

                  I've never met a Reverend that I've trusted, they are either scamming, strong arming or doing all the ladies in the congregation.

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