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Spadecaller, you are right and I think it has pulled the American people into actions that no christian would put up with.
Why then do they do they set back and do nothing?
Why are moral and principled people raising a voice against preachers like Parsley and Hagee?
"Why are moral and principled people raising a voice against preachers like Parsley and Hagee? "
I think you meant why "aren't" they. So I will say that people do raise their voices against dangerous, hateful people like this. Unfortunately that's not what "sells newspapers" (metaphorically) in our media.
I bet you wouldn't call Osama and the head of Hamas, hateful, WOULD you, O Jihadist of the Pen? Or, if you did, you'd say their hatred would justified, right?
Which candidates are supporting the agenda of either Osama or Hamas?
We're talking about Parsley and Hagee here.
I know. But, I think Dionys understands my question.
I certainly understand that it's another feeble attempt to link Obama to Osama and Hamas, a typical narrow-minded, bigoted smear.
YOU, sir, are projecting.
You, sir, are projectile vomiting not so subtle bias.
Go ahead and change the subject if you want. Again, I wasn't thinking of Obama when I mentioned Osama, for anyone who actually cares.
''Which candidates are supporting the agenda of either Osama or Hamas?''
well, I would say it would be McCain, if he continues to follow Bush's america-weakening foreign policy.
do people really think its a coincidence with Osama participating in the downfall of Russia?
It must be something in the schools I didn't go to or the cable TV I can't afford that makes people miss this stuff
on another thread, someone said there are 2500 AQ worldwide
how do 2500 people fight the US, let alone defeat them?
they don't
but they saw Russia in Afghanistan
they crazy, not stupid
they left stupid to us
"I bet you wouldn't call Osama and the head of Hamas, hateful, WOULD you, O Jihadist of the Pen? Or, if you did, you'd say their hatred would justified, right?"
I'm sorry. You're truly insane and obsessed with Islam in a very strange way.
What I wouldn't do is see the world in plain black and white as you do. Was Osama Bin Laden justified in his attack on 3000 innocents in the US? Absolutely not, no more than Bush was justified in killing hundreds of thousands of innocents in the middle east. Can I understand how American policies in the middle east led to such an action by Bin Laden? Sure. Can you understand how every time Palestinians and their children are bombed into oblivion by Israel that the bomb fragments read "Made in the USA?"
There are many sides to every question and many answers. I'm sorry you're so blind. So filled with hatred for a falsely created "other." You are no better than Hamas.
And, of course, YOU, being a Jihadist, HAVE to believe that Israel kills just for the hell of it, don't you? It just buldozes houses NOT because it was a home to someone who'd dress like a Rabbi (that's called "al-taqqiya", my friend, when a Muslim acts like an infidel to get his enemies guard down because "war is deception" in Islam) and set off a bomb in a bus, no, JUST to be mean. The same with Bush. Bush HAS to be attacking the Middle East just out of spite and OIL, is all. Why LOOK at all the oil wells of Iraq Bush has robbed, FORCING oil prices to fall like rocks. :)
I have NO hatred in my heart toward Muslims, because I know they are brainwashed since birth to fall for a "Holy" book that not only tells them to lie (surah 3:28 and 16:106, but, has surahs 9:1-5 and 9:29-30 in them.
As I said. You are insane. Truly disturbed. I'm so very sorry for you and for those around you. I'm so very sorry that you have no understanding of Islam or Muslims, as well. Try reading the book "Who Speaks for Islam." It will serve as a nice education. Please stop accusing me of being a Muslim or 'Jihadist' (you have no idea what either means) because I am neither by your definition or any other.
You are a sad person. Best wishes for your hopeful recovery.
If you want to keep on attacking my character to try to change the subject of what Quran 9:1-5 and 29-30 mean, be my guest. I'll leave it up to the one TRUE God on whether or not I call people's attention to certain passages from the Quran that turn good people (45 British Islamic medical doctors) into MONsters.
"I'll leave it up to the one TRUE God on whether or not I call people's attention to certain passages from the Quran that turn good people (45 British Islamic medical doctors) into MONsters. "
The God of the Muslims is the God of Christians.
That's what being an "Abrahamaic" faith means.
You have no education. I'm so very, very sorry for you.
If you want to pull out little bits of text from the Qur'an to "prooftext" then you can expect the same from the Bible and there are just as many little horrors in there when you take a small bit of text out of socio-historical context and context within the greater meaning of the text.
In addition you are reading English translations which don't quite carry the meaning and are of a low-context understanding. Just as you are likely reading English translations of the Bible which also always fall short.
I take it that, IF one were to translate the Quran correctly into English, instead of the incredibly STUPID ways Pickthal, Shakir and Yusef Ali translated them, the sun would be stationary and the earth would be rotating? "Strike off the finger tips and heads off of infidels" would be translated as "caress the hands and kiss the necks of infidels"? Surah 9:1-5 would SOUND like history, and NOT something that can be for OUR time as well? Quran 3:28 and 16:106 tells Muslims to actually be TRUTHful and NOT lie when "under duress" because 72 virgins DO await those who view the next life as important and NOT this one, so, why lie to protect your life in THIS world, as 16:107 seems to say, contradicting 106?
Dionys
I did mean that and sent such a message but it must have gotten seperated. I just saw it about three posts down.
Any yes people are raising their voices, just not enough of them. And you are so correct, I believe that selling newspapers and air time is directly proportional to the fuss that can be stirred up.
Taqqiya works. I can see why Muslims use it.