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  rdy2rck3 months, 4 weeks ago

  Unfortunately I could not read the words but found this deeply disturbing. It seemed to me it was being suggested that the "War on Terror" is a "crusade" for Chirstianity to wipe out all unbelievers particularly Muslims and children were being brain washed to die for it.I know nothing of Fitna but can guess it is a movie in reverse.This is sickening in each situation and is not reality of a whole people(Muslim and Christian)and shows how any text, in this case the Bible and the Koran words can be taken out of context to promote horrible violence and hatred of an entire peoples and peaceful ideologies.

  The War on terror is just that. A war on individuals, not a race or creed. And I would hazard a guess I would believe that some Christians are being taught this what the lady was suggesting and saying just as some Muslims are being warped.

  This is totally disgusting and if Fitna is the same garbage it is to be condemned. contd

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    rdy2rck3 months, 4 weeks ago

    I have said this before you do not condemn any tree for a few bad fruit no matter the tree.After all we are from one tree(The human race).If my interpretation or guess about Fitna is incorrect please enlighten me but it will not change my opinion using the anology of the tree or disgust in the clip I saw.

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  1-2-Oscar3 months, 4 weeks ago

  "Schism" manages to ignore the FACT that Christianity's message appears in the NEW Testament and that it espouses a "New Covenant" which replaced the Hebrew Covenant. The Christian texts do NOT exhort the faithful to kill, destroy, or to make war. Further, it is clear that the Christian covenant is inclusive--it is available to "all the World," not simply to a single "Chosen People."

  If those who created this "response" to Geert Wilder's earlier film were honest, they would not have presented Christianity so falsely. Because they did, the "response" fails to achieve its presumed purpose, and instead simply adds more fuel to the fires of hatred which exist among the peoples of the world. This is very disappointing. This is not a contribution toward mutual understanding, muhairi8, but a deliberate attempt to provoke further hostile action and reaction.

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    muhairi83 months, 4 weeks ago

    I think you didn't understand the point of this video, if you saw the whole video and especially the last part, you will understand, here:

    "It is easy to take parts of any Holy book that are out of content and make it sound like the most inhuman book ever written. This is what Geert Wilders did to gather more supporters to his hateful ideology. To create Schism."

    As rdy2rck said "shows how any text, in this case the Bible and the Koran words can be taken out of context to promote horrible violence and hatred of an entire peoples and peaceful ideologies."

    That was my point, the Torah, Gospel and the Quran can be used out of context, thats it.

    Thanks

    and Americans do the whole world a favor and vote for Obama : )

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      rdy2rck3 months, 3 weeks ago

      I gave you a pos. Muhairi8 for everything except I'm not a obama supporter but neither McCain:)

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      Mutainia3 months, 3 weeks ago

      Hey, hello there, mu. Long time no see. I thought you went off to greener pastures. I was wrong. Anyway, can you point out where Geert twisted the truth about Islam? Please provide the evidence so we can check it out on YouTube and see where he lied for ourselves.

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        Mutainia3 months, 3 weeks ago

        I mean, really, mu, please show where he took something from the Quran out of context so we can see if for ourselves IF he was lying. The net is fantastic at allowing us to check things out.

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          muhairi83 months, 3 weeks ago

          I don't want to waste my time on people like you.

          Thanks but find out for your self

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            Mutainia3 months, 3 weeks ago

            I am using a company computer that doesn't allow me access to YouTube, MySpace, well, ANY site that shows videos, so, it would help IF you could say WHICH scripture Geert has taken out of context. This computer DOES allow me access to "The Noble Quran", which contains all three well known English versions of the Quran. IF you don't let us know which scripture Geert is taking out of context, we will think YOU are the one who is lying here and performing "al-taqqiya" to keep people from the truth that Geert may be revealing about a religion that has surah 9:1-5 and 9:29-30 in it's "Holy" book.

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              icono13 months, 1 week ago

              Excellent point Mutainia; show us the actual evidence.

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              TGrass30011 month, 3 weeks ago

              You are at a work computer and can't see the videos? But you are commenting on the videos, and you can't see them? So how are you going to know if ANYTHING anyone says about the videos are accurate? You just assume that other people will do your research for you? What are you just plain lazy? Well if you are spending your work days commenting on videos you can't see on your work time, it's obvious that you are use to having other people do your work FOR you.

              So I will help you, The movie starts with a bunch of early hominoids pounding animal femur bones near a large polished black monolith... oh wait that's 2001: A Space Odyssey. DO YOUR OWN DAMN HOMEWORK YOU LAZY LAZY DOPES. Or better yet get back to WORK. Unless you work for the U.S. government in which case, go back to putting work off, the country is better off with you NOT working, but you are doing a heck of a job.

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  Daylight3 months, 4 weeks ago

  Fithna means purposely distorting things to create hatred or bloodshed. Geert Wilder has been paid and a pawn in the hands of the Zionist media to create Fithna in Europe, where a lot of people are converting to Islam. We are experiencing the war on terror which is against Islam and now the war on terror as everybody knows a failed affair even after 5 years of mass murder and destruction of Muslim countries and now it is Islam that is waging a war on the infidels. The truth is infidels are waging a war on Islam. We Muslims do not consider Jews and Christians as infidel they are considered people of the book. We really don't know who these infidels are? are they the Zionists? we are in fact clueless. We have seen attack on Islam and attack on the personality of the Prophet of Islam, when Muslims protested the Muslims are a violent creed and they do not respect the freedom of speech. Freedom of speech and insulting and humiliating are not the same as expressing ones view on a belief.

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    Endoscopy3 months, 3 weeks ago

    In France when an election result happened that the Muslims didn't like many of them went on a rampage destroying cars, hurting, and killing people. Then you say things are being distorted.

    How are People of the Book to be treated according to the Quran?

    Surah 9:29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His apostle nor acknowledge the religion of truth (even if they are) of the People of the Book until they pay the Jizya (tax) with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.

    Part of the concept of subdued is humiliation. As carried out by Muslims over the centuries it was accepted by a seated Muslim while the Muslim was holding the beard and slapping the face of the Person of the Book.

    Pact of Umar demanded from People of the Book forced that humiliation. Refusing to pay Jizya was to be given the choice to convert or die.

    Then you talk about people fighting Muslims. I just can't imagine why?

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      Mutainia3 months, 3 weeks ago

      There are scriptures in the Quran that sound tolerant of Christians and Jews, then you have others like surah 9:29. Gad, no WONDER the poor devils blow themselves up. HOW can they live with so many contradictions? HOW!?!?

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  Mutainia3 months, 3 weeks ago

  "We Muslims do not consider Jews and Christians as infidel they are considered people of the book." Yet, since Christians and Jews go to hell for not having their butt up in the air five times a day, it really doesn't seem to matter if you say you don't consider them as infidels. You probably just SAY they aren't infidels to get their guard down, because in Quran 3:28, Muslims are warned NOT to BE friends of Christians and Jews, unless, in their heart, they really don't mean it. Being an actual friend OF Christians and Jews cuts the Muslim off from Allah. Being so the case, can we all say, "booogie, boogie?" Oh, by the way, I have Quranic scriptures that seem to contradict the "Christians and Jews aren't infidels" remark, O Moonlight.

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  Mutainia3 months, 3 weeks ago

  Oh, I got to see the video. Impressive. However, I'll believe those Christians mean holy war the way Muslims believe it to be, when Christians are carving off heads and setting off bombs in markets, especially if shouting "Jesus is Great!" By the way, can ANY of those passages of Bible scripture the Muslim quoted in this movie compare to Quran 9:1-5, 29-30? I mean, IF I read those scriptures quoted in this video, I don't see how it means I should kill those who don't believe like me. I read Quran 9:1-5, 29, 30, and, I get no sense they are only for Muhammed's time. They seem to be for ANYtime, NOT just an historical event like those passages in Old Testament prophecy. READ Quran 9:1-5, 29, 30, folks. Does it sound like history...ONLY?!?! I'm wondering if those 45 British Islamic medical doctors who tried to set off bombs at Scottish airports saw them as historical only.

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  Endoscopy3 months, 3 weeks ago

  A basic fact about the verses in the bible is they were given for a specific group of people at a specific time for a specific reason.

  In the Quran the fighting verses are general against unbelievers.

  In Christian circles the fighting is fighting with words and ideas.

  In Muslim circles like Palestine for example they teach very young children to use automatic weapons to destroy Jews. 50% of the young children want to grow up to be suicide bombers.

  This is a very major difference in point of view.

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    Mutainia3 months, 3 weeks ago

    Apparently "inner struggle" in Islam is picking up the sword and killing those who don't want to do five times a day of butt in the air.

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    wasntme3 months ago

    under what circumstances Christians and Jews are supposed to kill CHILDREN and WOMEN? What kind of a lord would order his followers to go and kill any thing that moves and breathes in a city or a town? It sounds like a devil to me except devil would have been more settled about it. What kind of a God would instruct his followers to kill children and to kill women ? If that is LORD then can you tell me what is DEVIL?

    You can never find a verse in Quran that orders or come near ordering Allah's followers to go kill women, children and anything that moves or breathes. It is obvious that Bible and Torah are mixed with words of devil . It is up to Christian and Jewish scholar to sort out the devils word from Lord's words.

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      Mutainia3 months ago

      Well, maybe not women and children and the old, but, men who DON'T perform five times a day of butt in the air are FAIR game (see surah 9:1-5, 29, 30 in the Qur'an).

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  wasntme3 months, 1 week ago

  I don't think it is a fair observation to say that things are taken out of context about Quran and Bible. Where in Quran says that you go and kill anything that lives? where in Quran says that you need to go and kill women and children? There is no such a thing . Those who follow Bible or old testament need to ask themselves in what context were those word said about killing women and children? Under what circumstances killing women and children is ordered by Lord? To me this Lord is as bad or worse than Satan. It is so obvious that these instruction to kill women and children can not be the word of Jesus PBUH nor Moses PBUH, these are the work of charlatans added to these books. To put it very respectfully, any pages of Holy or unholy book that instructs and sanctions the killing of women and children is good for me to wipe my ass with.

  Indoctrinating children is done By Jewish ,Christian and Muslim taliban and extremists. All are disgusting.

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    Mutainia3 months, 1 week ago

    Nice to see you write that about being anti-extremist. Trouble is, I don't know any Jewish or Christian extremists who revert to violence, but, PLENTY of Muslim extremists who do and have crap like THIS brain-washing their innocents:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0U2ce-LmA4

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    Mutainia3 months, 1 week ago

    Nice to see you write that about being anti-extremist. Trouble is, I don't know any Jewish or Christian extremists who revert to violence, but, PLENTY of Muslim extremists who do and have crap like THIS brain-washing their innocents:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0U2ce-LmA4

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    Mutainia3 months, 1 week ago

    Yep, those Jewish and Christian extremists are just HORRIBLE! They're bad...BAD, I tells ya! :)

    Ah, WHEN was the last time you saw a Christian or Jewish extremist carving off someone's head for handing the Bible or Torah incorrectly? For drawing pictures of Jesus or naming a Teddy Bear after Adonai? By the way, I too am disgusted with indoctrinating children when it's WRONG indoctrination. But, since you are a Muslim, I bet you won't care about THIS indoctrination, WILL you?:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0U2ce-LmA4

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      wasntme3 months, 1 week ago

      poor lil Muti,

      in your last rant this was the kind of venom that came out of you:

      "I think the road to peace isn't through Iraq, Iran nor any other place. The road to peace is through the Kabah... obliterated and defiled with the remains and poop of pigs dropped from stealth bombers after cruise missiles have done their work."

      A little human like you who is willing to use such a deliberately hateful language for no reason other than self satisfaction has taken himself out of the debate , so once again very respectfully I will say : SCREW YOU

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        Mutainia3 months ago

        I stand by what I said. The road to end the "war on terror", I feel, is the obliteration and defiling of the Kabah. I feel that it MIGHT let the Jihadists (who REALLY believe in Allah) realize that ALL of Mecca is touchable. And, if YOU, a Muslim, DON'T get your act together, and, say, a nuke goes off in an American city, well, hey, Mecca AND Medina, can possibly suddenly vanish without Allah being able to do anything stop it... since HE/THEY COULDN'T keep you from bowing five times a day to PIG poop! I mean, by taking out the thing you are FORCED to bow down to (how can you NOT be?) FIVE times a day, I feel, is a very merciful way to awaken you to the reality that things can be FAR worse if push comes to shove. I mean, as long as YOU continue to think Danish cartoons are horrible and NOT missiles fired willy nilly into Israeli neighborhoods or strapping on bombs to two retarded women and blowing up Shiite innocents in Iraqi pet shops, I'll be thinking about the Kabah.

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