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In 1095 Pope Urban II called for a great Crusade to "reclaim the Holy Land" from the Muslims who ruled it. The next two and a half centuries saw four major and seven minor crusades, and warfare and strife was the normal way of existence in Palestine. The Crusaders established kingdoms and duchys, enlarged them possible, defended them when necessary, and lost them in the end. By 1345 the Crusades were over and the results were clear--Europe had not been able to project its power into that area and make it its own.

Israel is a new attempt by the West to project its power into the Middle East. Thus far, the pattern of intermittent warfare looks a lot like those earlier Crusaders--establishing a kingdom, expanding it where possible, defending it and drawing back when necessary. This time the Western intrusion has lasted sixty years--so far.

Do you think that, if we spend enough money and sacrifice enough men, we can equal the accomplishments of those earlier Crusaders?

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Hebrew isn't and never has been a "dead language". What have you been reading?

You mean a miracle like a nation of 42 millions fighting a against a nation of 140 millions and thrashing them soundly? Something like that? Or do you mean like a people numbering less than 1.3 million defeating an enemy with over 7.5 millions NOT counting the rest of the Empire? You mean like that?

Go read a history book. Seriously.

Not meant as a reply to you Oscar.

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Yeah, and why isn't Don Juan Carlos I demanding the throne of the Kingdom of Jerusalem? He is, of course, the heir to that throne.

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So what you're saying is, Christians don't fight the crusades anymore, we use the Jewish people by proxy?

Israel only expanded when they took territory in the six day war that the enemy was using as staging areas to attack Israel.

Now that Israel pulled back from Gaza, what are the Palestinians doing? They're launching rockets from there.

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No, Locky12, that's not what I'm saying.

(And that is not the only time Israel took land).

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We don't agree often, but in this you are absolutely 100% correct.

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