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And John McCain actually sought this guys endorsement?
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bubba23 months, 2 weeks ago
Let's see how long it takes a McCain supporter to try to deflect this or try to justify how it is less 'offensive' than what Rev. Wright 'said' ... or that McCain just asked for Hagee's support, he didn't "sit in his church pews" ....
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toph19733 months, 2 weeks ago
This is far worse than what wright said. McCain said this guy was a great American leader (or something to that effect). More hatred, racism and intolerance coming from the Pulpit. Shocking? Hardly. Typical? Definitely. And people wonder why I think the Church is evil. We'll see if McCain gets rid of this slime. But probably not.
This reminds me how Gulianni said that a pedophile child molester pastor was a great man.
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jovial3 months, 2 weeks ago
Here's another goody. Anyone know Ron Parsley?? McCain called this guy his spiritual guide. Watch the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVVX9aTNKB4
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NoSpinDave3 months, 2 weeks ago
I will say it. No prob. It IS a B I G difference! While these comments seem to be authentic (and horrible and I would denounce them 100 percent) there is ZERO EVIDENCE that McCain EVER knew about them.
On the other hand B H O CLEARLY knew all the things his PERSONAL PASTOR was saying over a TWENTY YEAR PERIOD.
THIS IS A GREAT SWERVE, but anyone with any brain understands the diffenence.
I expect nothing less than the usual INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY from ANOTHER one of Libscapes left wing extremist, partisan Navs though.
Still waiting (after two years) for a post from a conservative nav here. Kinda sad really how biased this site has become.
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lfergie8123 months, 2 weeks ago
"Kinda sad really how biased this site has become."
Truth still hurts I see. It's only bias if you strongly disagree with it. Of course I'm also sure that you believe that FOX News is "fair and balance" reporting while MSNBC is bias. Get a life Dave.
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IanFraigun3 months, 2 weeks ago
First of all McCain knew of his intolerance on many issues and still asked for his endorsement meaning he must agree with the comments. As far as Obama this is not his personal pastor but rather the pastor of a church Obama and hundreds of others belong to. Congregants do not agree with all things their pastors say in any church, but when you ask someone to support you then you are saying you believe in what they stand for.
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jordan113 months, 2 weeks ago
On the other hand B H O CLEARLY knew all the things his PERSONAL PASTOR was saying over a TWENTY YEAR PERIOD.>>>>
There's the problem with this conversation. You see, WHAT the pastor was saying was correct. HOW he was saying it was his error. You don't seem to think that Obama had the common sense to get by the 'how', & focus on the 'what.' However, his life's conduct clearly shows that he did that very well.
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ybdogsct3 months, 2 weeks ago
DAVE:
"there is ZERO EVIDENCE that McCain EVER knew about them."
Your justification is weak.
If McCain didn't know what Hagee had said, then why would McCain say he didn't agree with everything Hagee had said? How can you deny what you don't know?
http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/the_mccainhage...
"McCain assured reporters that, just because Hagee was endorsing him, it didn't mean he agreed with everything Hagee said."
Even AFTER McCain was informed of Hagee's hateful rants by a reporter, McCain insisted he was "proud of Hagee's support."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-hamsher/mcca...
"Mr. McCain said he was 'very honored' by Mr. Hagee's endorsement. Asked about Mr. Hagee's writings on Armageddon and about Mr. Hagee's belief that the anti-Christ will be the head of the EU, Mr. McCain responded that 'all I can tell you is that I am very proud to have Pastor John Hagee's support.'"
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ybdogsct3 months, 2 weeks ago
McCain even went out of his way to DEFEND Hagee's comments after he was informed of them by a reporter.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/29/john-h...
HAGEE: "It's true that [John] McCain's campaign sought my endorsement."
John McCain defended Pastor Hagee's comments today, saying he believe Hagee's claims that his statements were taken out of context.
MCCAIN: "I will say that Hagee said that his words were taken out of context, he defends his position.."
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/11/mccain-hage...
McCain then said he could look past Hagee's bigoted comments because 'when we were doing the No Surrender tour, he came and spoke on behalf of not surrendering in Iraq.'"
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dunkirk3 months, 2 weeks ago
ROFLMAO, Dave you seem to enjoy spinning anything you come in contact with. You of course can point to the legislation that Obama supported and/or authored that furthered what his pastor was talking about? Ya know since he believes in those things so much he MUST have tried to push it in legislation. Oh yeah he didn't. Dang reality always tends ot blow holes in you guys.
however when you look at what the REPUBLICANS do they seem intent on pushing the hate mongers like Hagee and Robertson onto all Americans i.e. funding for religious madrasas in the US, hiring bible students into the DOJ. Tsk Tsk reality has to really be problem with your spin Dave.
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Blackacereturn3 months, 2 weeks ago
I wonder what this say to the so-call not voting for Obama because of Rev Wright. I guess now we get to see who is about race and who is about substance? In my mind they are both meaningless, the issues are the only thing that should matter.
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bubba23 months, 2 weeks ago
NoSpinDave --
Have YOU sat in the Pews were Wright preached for the last 20 years, EVERY SUNDAY?
If not, then you have NO idea WHAT Wright said in his sermons over the past 20 years. None at all.
The ONLY sermon, from which only SOUNDBITES have been played, is 7 years old and the soundbites are definitely taken out of context.
There is NO documentation to support the "blanket generalization that Wright and/or his church have preached any "hate" or "anti-patriotic" anything for 20 years.
But you have accepted that face-value spin, which is exactly what FOX New and the neocons WANT you to do.
Try reading some of this - if you can open you mind up enough ...
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/michael_tom...
http://truthabouttrinity.blogspot.com/
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ETproductions3 months, 2 weeks ago
AllSoinDave wrote: "It IS a B I G difference! While these comments seem to be authentic (and horrible and I would denounce them 100 percent) there is ZERO EVIDENCE that McCain EVER knew about them."
I have noticed that EVERYTHING your RepugniCons do is entirely different from Democrats doing the same thing. Your rules. We can do anything, and it is good. You can do anything and it is bad.
Sorry, my friend. I play by the rules of the universe, not the warped rules of your partisan hate campaign.
There is also ZERO EVIDENCE Obama knew about his pastor's more outrageous statements. What is clear is McCain sought out the endorsements of Hagee, Parsley, Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. We know what Hagee and Parsley have said. Falwell and Robertson had both claimed that 911 was God's punishment of America. No better or worse than Wright. Yet they get a free pass?
It calls into question McCain's judgment. His ability to run things. No vetting?
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Goppy3 months, 2 weeks ago
I doubt this story will amount to much of a blip in the Mainstream Media.
Havin Crazy Televangelists Endorse Republicans fits nicely with the Stereotypes Media has created surroundin the two parties.
Of course, this stereotype was developed by the REpublican Media Machine ... (cause far be it from Media to do any investigatin on their own).
And if theres ONE BRAND the REpublican Media Machine has succeeded in creatin ... its the RELIGIOUS RIGHT. (Which is, of course, another name for Christian Conservatives.)
Now this WOULD be news if Hagee endorsed Obama ... cause that would be goin AGAINST type, AGAINST stereotype.
But if THAT happened, it would SERIOUSLY harken the 'End Times'. ... ... Cause ... typically ... those who embrace intolerance, bigotry, narrow-mindedness, exclusion, war, and a black/white view of world events ... that sort dont normally endorse poeple of Expansive Vision.
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RickyDawkins3 months, 2 weeks ago
I know you are a Luddite, but you may like this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_God_Delusion
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libsRfunny3 months, 2 weeks ago
McCain made a mistake. But he didn't do it for 20 years. Obviously, he didn't look beyond the man's 75 million viewers.
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jordan113 months, 2 weeks ago
Again, what his pastor was saying was correct. HOW he said it was badly put forth with anger. Doesn't mean Obama went along with the how, but he clearly learned from the 'what.' And....he took what he learned and gave to the community that had been oppressed in positive ways. Ya'll just refuse to admit that Obama has done NOTHING to indicate he goes along with Wright's style of preaching. He learned from the life experiences of Wright, which were filled with living racism, and went about trying to help those who have been affected by racism. You have a non issue here, but like all CONS, you got your teeth in it and you're going to defy reality to the end.
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bubba23 months, 2 weeks ago
AGAIN ...
Have YOU sat in the Pews were Wright preached for the last 20 years, EVERY SUNDAY?
If not, then you have NO idea WHAT Wright said in his sermons over the past 20 years. None at all.
The ONLY sermon, from which only SOUNDBITES have been played, is 7 years old and the soundbites are definitely taken out of context.
There is NO documentation to support the "blanket generalization that Wright and/or his church have preached any "hate" or "anti-patriotic" anything for 20 years.
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pc253 months, 2 weeks ago
hey MENSA boy you apparently missed last weeks press conference with McCain and Hagee where Hagee apologized to Catholics about his remarks towards them and then McCain took the podiuum in front of Hagee and said he disavows, disagess, and distances himself from many of Hagee's views and comments...........now where is the Rev Wright's apology to people as well as Obama calling a press conference with Wright taking the podium in front of Wright and issuing the same same statement........hasn't happened ..........what we do get after all the uproar though is Wright going on PBS and then appearing before the National Press Club in Washington continuing to spew his racist philosophical bile.........just goes to show how stupid all you little Abominoids are trying to equate the 2 especially since McCain was never a member of Hagee's Churce, never sat for 20 years in Hagees church, wasn't married by or had his children baptized by hagee, never donated 10's of thousands of dollars to hagee
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pc253 months, 2 weeks ago
never called Hagee his spiritual mentor and never listened to Hagees sermons while he was in college......all we ever got from Obama was denials, I was never there during those sermons, he is like everyones crazy uncle, I could never disown him more i could my white grandmother ( then he goes on to throw grandma uunder the bus and call her a typical white person).....it wasn't until Wright goes on PBS with Bill Moyers and makes a spectacle of himself and follows it up the following day with a speech right out of Hitler's Aryan German philosophy that all of a sudden Obama is shocked and issues a statement this is not the man I met 20 years ago, only to be followed by Wright's reply he says what a politician has to say........pure unadulterated bs............meanwhile McCain calls a conference where Hagee apologizes and McCain distances himself from his comments...........BIG BIG difference........BTW Hagee has also recanted his Katrina comments among others
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bubba23 months, 2 weeks ago
AND AGAIN ...
Have YOU sat in the Pews were Wright preached for the last 20 years, EVERY SUNDAY?
If not, then you have NO idea WHAT Wright said in his sermons over the past 20 years. None at all.
The ONLY sermon, from which only SOUNDBITES have been played, is 7 years old and the soundbites are definitely taken out of context.
There is NO documentation to support the "blanket generalization that Wright and/or his church have preached any "hate" or "racist" anything for 20 years.
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MajJohn3 months, 2 weeks ago
Did McCain openly ask for Hagee's support? Or did Hagee decide on his own that of the three remaining candidates he found McCain more to his liking? I really don't know. From what I heard McCain say, it went something like,"I can not prevent someone from endorsing me". Sort of like the wacky enforcements Obama got from some of those characters in the Middle East.. All politicians get from time to time endorsements they with they didn't have.
This post will degenerate into a he said, she said and resolve nothing. We need to take in all we know about Obama and McCain and then decide in our own hearts who would bring healing to our fractured society and bring solutions to the challenges we face.
You noticed I left Clinton out. I don't care for her. She is a divisive old style politician and we need to get off this Clinton/Bush merry go round.
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Candida3 months, 2 weeks ago
MajJohn: "Did McCain openly ask for Hagee's support?"
According to the NYT he did:
"But those who try to give Mr. McCain a pass for his embrace of a problematic preacher have a thin case. It boils down to this: Mr. McCain was not a parishioner for 20 years at Mr. Hagee's church.
That defense implies, incorrectly, that Mr. McCain was a passive recipient of this bigot's endorsement. In fact, by his own account, Mr. McCain sought out Mr. Hagee, who is perhaps best known for trying to drum up a pre-emptive "holy war" with Iran."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/opinion/04ric...
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The first three videos also show that whether McCain sought out his endorsement or not, he was pleased and proud to get it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS9F7O2lhWg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyG3NhRfzjk&feat...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDeralFXCLU&feat...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PQb-d6nQg8&feat...
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