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Posted by: mikhurst 1 month, 2 weeks ago

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Jesus proved He was who He said He was (the Son of God) by exhibiting signs, wonders and miracles (which are the testimony of the Full Gospel of Jesus Christ). Those same signs, wonders and miracles are the testimony of the move of God in Lakeland.

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mikhurst1 month, 2 weeks ago

"And these signs shall follow them that believe..." [Mark 16:17]
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    re:"Try Matthew 24:24 on for size..." -> are you acknowledging that we have entered into "the Great Tribulation" and that these are the "End Times"?
    By the way, you merely commented on my comment. What do you think of the content of the submitted video?
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        re:"I acknowledge that you appear to be a sheeple, and the content of all your..." -> I'm honored that 90% of you who visit my posts feel obligated to comment on your personal views of me, BUT...what I was aiming for was a comment on the nature of the teaching. Todd's saying that the Gospel which Jesus presented demonstrated salvations, healings and deliverances (exactly what is being demonstrated in Lakeland). Do you see any difference in the fruit which is coming forth from the Gospel which Todd is presenting, and the Gospel which Jesus presented? I'm talking fruit now, not tattoos.
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        Todd Bentley is a false prophet.
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        re:"Capisca?" -> Io non capisco la Sua inafferrabilita per rispondere alla mia domanda.
        You pass yourself off as a Bible expert until asked to make a comparative evaluation of two Biblical applications. One in Jesus' time, and one in our time. As deep as you like to go, that seems pretty simple to me. Your answer is a brushoff. I was looking for your expertise on the matter.
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        You are just looking to deflect attention from the lies you have spread lately.
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        mikhurst1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        re:"You are just looking to deflect attention..." -> In case you didn't notice MM, I was directing the commentary BACK to the submitted topic. As long as you're "standing in the gap" for Hmac, why don't you answer the question directed to him?
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        The submitted topic is about a false prophet. You are trying to deflect from that and make Bentley (and yourself) look legitimate, when neither of you is legitimate.
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        mikhurst1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        What makes Todd Bentley a false prophet in your eyes? You've sidestepped this long enough.
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        I have sidestepped nothing! Are you retarded? Maybe a case of Down's Syndrome? Perhaps a touch of dementia? I have answered that repeatedly, yet you keep sidestepping it. Go back to school. Learn to read. Then check back with us when (if) you graduate. Ta!
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        I have sidestepped nothing! Are you retarded? Maybe a case of Down's Syndrome? Perhaps a touch of dementia? I have answered that repeatedly, yet you keep sidestepping it. Go back to school. Learn to read. Then check back with us when (if) you graduate. Ta!
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        OK, I'll answer the question point blank for you. The question that you posed to Hmac, and then to Me was: "Do you see any difference in the fruit which is coming forth from the Gospel which Todd is presenting, and the Gospel which Jesus presented?"
        The answer to that specific question is, "Yes."
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        mikhurst1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        re:"The answer to that specific question is, "Yes." -> that's a start. Now expand on that until you have a case against Todd Bentley. Until then, you have nothing more than "a difference of opinion" with no supportive statements. If Todd Bentley's a "false prophet" like you say, produce some concrete statements that prove he's preaching or teaching against the tenets of the Holy Bible. Because the Word of God is the only thing that will stand up in the court in which you are accusing him. Not "your opinion", not "what looks right", not "how many tattoos", not even if someone came up onstage and lied about their healing. Here's your chance to state your case.
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        That is not the start you moron. That is the end. Page upon page has been spent discussing your lies, Bentley's lies, Bentley's pedophilia, the lack of evidence you have, and the evidence that shows you're lying. It's not my problem if you have a reading disorder. As for the tattoos, when did I ever mention tattoos? More lies and misdirection from you? That's about all you're good for, it seems. The case has already been stated. The case has already been close. You're just too stupid (or too embarrassed) to admit it.
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        mikhurst1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        re:"and the evidence that shows you're lying..." -> bring it on. You still haven't defined how I "intentionally deceived" you. Posting something you don't get along with doesn't deem it "a lie". Posting something you don't see from the same perspective as I do doesn't deem it "a lie". Looking at the same video footage as I do on the same prescribe player that you recommended and coming up with a different conclusion doesn't make it "a lie". So bring it on. I'm not going to fold under your namecalling. Put up or shut up. The case is only closed if you got nothing more to present than namecalling.
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        mik-"bring it on" >It was already brought. You're just too stupid (and/or embarrassed) to admit it.
        I presented much more than name calling. I presented the unvarnished truth. But it's OK, I know you won't admit it. Pathological liars never do. Of course you came to a different conclusion. You were the one who initiated the lie, and you don't want to appear to have been caught in it. But you have been caught in it. Anyone who reads these pages and follows the directions I gave can see it. Except the liar involved.
        Face it, you've been busted. Yet you spend dozens of comments on various threads denying it. Confess your sins! Confession is good for the soul.
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        mikhurst1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        re:"My expert opinion is that the Bible, and Todd's teachings from it, is 99.9% predigested fertilizer." -> thank's Hmac. Now it's inarguable that whenever you comment on Christianity or Biblical matters, it can be summed up as nothing more than 99.9% biased opinion or sarcasm.
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        mikhurst1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        re:"did you say something?" -> yes, I said it's inarguable that whenever you comment on Christianity or Biblical matters, it can be summed up as nothing more than 99.9% biased opinion or sarcasm.
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        It's inarguable that whenever you comment on Christianity or Biblical matters, it can be summed up as nothing more than 100% biased opinion or male bovine excrement.
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MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago

So where are the snakes and drinking deadly things?
While you're at it, where are the ACTUAL healings and raising from the dead? And the casting out of demons? We're still waiting on evidence. More lies?
THOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS!
Oh wait, here's the evidence... Mikhurst, and Todd Bentley, bearing false witness and caught in the act here ... http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/06/18/...
Since this post IS about the Lakeland happenings, this link is HIGHLY relevant.
Repent your sins, mik.
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  re:"While you're at it, where are the ACTUAL healings and raising from the dead? And the casting out of demons?" -> there's an unusually high concentration in Lakeland Florida, but actually, they're occurring all over the world.
  re:"We're still waiting on evidence." -> all that you see in these videos, but discount, is "evidence". All that you read about, but discount, is "evidence". You see, the "philosophy of skepticism" you adhere to is not allowing anything to register in your mind as "valid". "Skepticism" defined is: "an attitude of doubt...a disposition to incredulity...the doctrine that true knowledge or knowledge in a particular area is uncertain." Your entire philosophy stems from doubt and uncertainty. Thus, the frustration you're experiencing from the mindset you've chosen is not at all surprising to me.
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    MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
    
    This video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHAf3W3iPPY&feat...
    which you submitted over here http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/06/18/...
    is definite evidence. Evidence of lies. That much was proven. Skepticism has nothing to do with it. An eye to spot the male bovine excrement is all it takes. You can wiggle and squirm all you like, but the FACT (not opinion) is that you (and Bentley) were caught in a lie, but neither of you is man enough to admit it.
    While you're at it, are there any snake handlers down there in Lakeland? Remember, you were the one to bring up Mark 16.
    THOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS! Not a suggestion, but a commandment.
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      re:"An eye to spot the male bovine excrement is all it takes." -> You demonstrate with that statement exactly what I cited in the above comment..."You see, the "philosophy of skepticism" you adhere to is not allowing anything to register in your mind as "valid". It's by your choice you cannot see.
      re:"...are there any snake handlers down there in Lakeland?" -> honestly, I don't know. But I'll tell you what, don't hold your breath waiting for God to "jump through hoops" for you. I believe the reason you can't see God in this is because you can't see God in anything.
      "...God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble." [James 4:6]
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        No, as I said, it's not that I cannot see, it's that I see very clearly. You provided the evidence. What is it about Bentley that makes you have to lie? Or is it a character flaw in yourself?
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        mk - "don't hold your breath waiting for God to "jump through hoops" for you" > So your god is a liar? "And these signs shall follow them that believe". Not may follow. Not could follow. SHALL FOLLOW. So where are the snakes, healings, resurrections, demons, poison drinkers, and speakers of new languages? It's not multiple choice. ALL need to be there. OK, maybe your god isn't a liar. So what else does that leave? You (and Bentley) don't truly believe. Oh, I have no doubt you believe in SOMETHING. Money, lies, Bentley. But you do not live your life as a true follower of Christ. You follow a false prophet, which the bible warns you about.
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        mikhurst1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        you seem tormented by all of this. I'm confident a little Jesus in your life would help immensely.
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        Likewise.
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        smithichie1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        "I'm confident a little Jesus in your life would help immensely".
        What? Is Bentley now claiming Jesus was a midget?
        
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        mikhurst1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        I so much missed your comedy act. But...a little Jesus does go a long way. Just a touch from Him changes lives. Why don't you just help yourself?
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        You first
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        mikhurst1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        re:"Just a touch from Him changes lives" -> the capitalization of the word "Him" is a giveaway of deity. That's Him, King Jesus I'm referring to.
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/07/01/...
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        smithichie1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        King Jesus? Give me Baby Jesus. Now there was a Jesus for the people. Who doesn't love a baby?
        Sorry for the mistake, I haven't been following this week and I just figured Bentley was refering to himself as Jesus by now.
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        Give it time.
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        smithichie1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        "Just a touch from Him changes lives".
        Are you talking about Bentley's admited sex crimes?
        I'm sure he's cured now though and can be trusted with children.
        
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        mikhurst1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        re:"Just a touch from Him changes lives". -> I'm talking about Jesus. And He's real. If you've never experienced Him, you have no idea of what you're missing.
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        Perhaps Bentley touched him? Oh, you probably mean "addled."
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        Looks like you don't have the experience to speak on the topic.
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chuck-the-canuck1 month, 2 weeks ago

More Pixie Twaddle from the delusional.
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  re:"why is it the only coverage of it I can find is on Christian sites?" -> CNBC, MSNBC and Geraldo (FoxNews) have covered Lakeland so far. ABC was there for 3 days last week while we were there, so I imagine they're processing footage.
  re:"they're biting their tongues..." -> it's not to keep from laughing, Hmac. You sum yourself up to be a pretty bright guy. If you saw something you couldn't explain (or didn't understand), would you go on national television and say so?
  Tell me something? Why aren't the major news networks that actually visited the Revival running their mouths off like you and MereMortal? Could be it's not "good press" to present "biased opinions" and "speculation"? I think they would have "exposed" and shut down this Revival by now if they could have...it's in day 92.
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MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago

Hey, mikhurst, you seem to have trouble keeping track of all the comments on your various stories. You have your @$$ handed to you on one story, then move over to another one, making the same basic statements to the same people that got your @$$ handed to on the other discussion. Seriously, do you have some kind of learning disability? A drug problem? Maybe a lack of drug problem? Feeling the withdrawals? Maybe Bentley can heal your dementia.
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  mikhurst1 month, 2 weeks ago
  
  Hey MereMortal...you keep trying to peddle your unsupported biased opinion as "fact" on my posts, I'll keep calling you on it. It takes up a lot of thread space, and makes the posts an untidy, unappealing place to visit, but I'll keep doing it. Feel free to keep posting your abusive adolescent tantrums too. This stuff all stays up here.
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      mikhurst1 month, 2 weeks ago
      
      if your one-word opinion to sum up my story is "stupidity", I openly give you the freedom to express that. However, abusive commentary and namecalling carries absolutely no weight in devaluing the validity of the submitted story. I think the only way to concretely counter a story you disagree with is by submitting another article supporting your disagreement. Example: Someone submits a blog that says "the Cubs always beat the Yankees". You calling them an idiot won't "prove" that story wrong. You posting your opinion of Chicagoans won't "prove" that story wrong. However, you posting a Wiki article citing "the Yankees swept the Cubs in the 1932 World Series" would be pretty much validly debunk that story though.
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        mk"I openly give you the freedom to express that."> Somehow, I don't think Hmac (or I, or anyone else) requires your permission, but thanks anyway for your arrogance. It speaks volumes.
        mk"abusive commentary and namecalling carries absolutely no weight in devaluing the validity of the submitted story" >How about concrete evidence that you provided? Remember the glass eye fiasco? Allow me to refresh your memory ... http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/06/18/...
        mk"the only way to concretely counter a story you disagree with is by submitting another article supporting your disagreement" > No, idiot, it is not. This is a DISCUSSION site. Some people submit. Others discuss. Either one would be pretty useless without the other. You see, the discussion keeps the story in context. Another submission would tend to remove that context. The analysis what you supplied is the real evidence, found in the discussion.
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        re:"Remember the glass eye fiasco?" -> yeah, I do. Your "big challenge" backfired in your face.
        re:"This is a DISCUSSION site." -> is repeatedly calling someone and idiot, "discussion". Don't try to play mediator. You're the biggest disruptor on this particular post. Face it.
        re:"Some people submit. Others discuss." -> Some people submit. Others heckle...Some people submit. Others namecall...Some people submit. Others disrupt...Some people submit. Others turn themselves over to adolescent tantrums...Some people submit. Others turn themselves over to coprolalia. Time to look at your performance record. How may submissions do you have?
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        mk-"Your "big challenge" backfired in your face. " > I'd say the finger is pointing back at you. You really are pathetic. It would be sad, if you really believed half of what you say.
        http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/07/01/...
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        mikhurst1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        re:"if you really believed half of what you say." -> I really believe all that I say. I'm not afraid to stand up for what I believe.
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        Put the pipe down. Pass it to the left hand side.
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        re:"you're just afraid to pull the plank out of your eye..." -> I spent a week there my friend...as part of FreshFire's team. No ATM was even mentioned in our "briefing session". I never spotted one the entire time I was there. And we were there to help the masses. Offering was taken after 11:00pm. That's after many had left. I was greatly surprised they did it like that.
        Spend a week there if you want a plank yanked out of your skeptical mindset. It's not at all like the critical trash that's been concocted and promoted online. You won't find any reputable newspapers or publications "stretching the truth" to rip the Revival because they'd be risking their reputations.
        It's different than the bad-rap it's gotten. And so is Todd. He comes on as radical, but he's also humble and loving.
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        mk-"I spent a week there my friend...as part of FreshFire's team" > Oh, so you're in on it! That explains a lot!
        mk-"It's different than the bad-rap it's gotten. And so is Todd. He comes on as radical, but he's also humble and loving." > Like to the little boy you said he laid hand on? How about that adult shop you said is down the street? You know, the one you said had "legal child porn" (unlike you, I use quotation marks for what they are meant - to quote YOU). Did you and Bentley enjoy yourselves there? Passing the love around there?
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        re:"Oh, so you're in on it!" -> you bet I am. And I forgive you for all your unwarranted accusations.
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        re:"Your submitted story has no validity..." -> let me ask you: if this "Revival" is so "invalid", why hasn't it been stopped? You guys are making it sound "hazardous" to the general public. Todd has made every effort to lay it open to scrutiny by EVERY major agency, and not one has come up with anything more powerful that critiques, which are personal opinions.
        If you choose to be skeptic, that's ok.
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        And if you choose to be a liar and follow a false prophet/pedophile, that's OK, too, because this is the US. It's your right to be a dumb@$$.
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        mikhurst1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        though you're first suggestion is ridiculous, the second and third kinda take the fire out of your firey protest of the whole thing, doesn't it.
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        Quick! Pass that pipe around to the left! Don't bogart the Holy Ganja!
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        Pyramid - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme
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    Any moron can see that it is YOUR unsupported, biased opinions that are attempting (quite poorly) to masquerade as facts. I showed your faux glass eye guy for what he was, and listed the steps to duplicate the evidence. You just stuck your fingers in your ears and screamed I CAN'T HEAR YOU (figuratively). Oh wait, I guess ANY moron can't see it. You are evidence of that.
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      re:"and listed the steps to duplicate the evidence." -> been there, done that. Played the footage on your prescribed player. Played the whole ballgame on your turf. My original observation still stands. No fingers in the ears, no screaming. I'm not saying what you observed was wrong. I'm not calling you a blind moron. I'm just saying you challenged me to observe the footage on a player you recommended, and I accepted your challenge. My original observation still stands. And that observation doesn't make either of us a "liar" in the case of the "guy with the prosthetic eye". But it doesn't "debunk" that footage, nor pose grounds of any accusation of a "false prophet" either.
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        No, it absolutely makes you a liar, as anyone who watches that video frame by frame can see. The guy does not have a prosthetic eye, as any fool but you can see.
        Bottom line, you are a liar. Todd Bentley is a little boy diddling false prophet. He may or may not be in it for the money. He may be compensated by copping a feel with a little boy - which you did say he "layed hands" on.
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        re:"as anyone who watches that video frame by frame can see." -> been there, done that. On your prescribed player. I REALLY watched it, many times. And I REALLY tried to see where it was that you believed, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that this guy was a plant. And I still REALLY disagree with you. So until you get that footage analyzed by both an expert in the field of photography and of eye surgery, and get them to validate their testimonies by all the same standards you're demanding of this Revival, our disagreement remains merely two conflicting opinions of non-experts.
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        Male bovine excrement. But go ahead, deny. You have shown no remorse for your sins. But that's OK. You'll get your just reward. Give it time.
        "until you get that footage analyzed by both an expert in the field of photography and of eye surgery" > First, how do you know I'm neither. Second, how an artificial eye visibly operates and its limitations is readily determinable, even by a lay person. The actual mechanics at the cellular level may not be, but the visual aspects of it absolutely can. Third, no expertise is required in photography (or video). If the video were altered, that may be the case. But assuming Bentley (or whoever posted the video) didn't alter it, the guy is an obvious plant. Keep denying. You only show yourself to be more foolish, childish, and idiotic. I'm done with you for now, so if you'd like the last word, go ahead, charlatan.
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        re:"First, how do you know I'm neither." -> I don't, that's just it. Come back when you've got the experts I requested, and measure their testimonies by the same standards you're demanding of Todd's. As of now, I'm almost convinced you're a rebellious teenager diddling on your parents computer while they're at the country club.
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        No experts required you retarded chimpanzee. Come back when you have some real evidence of something besides chicanery and little boy buggering happening. Oh wait, I think I found out why you like to get bent over by Bentley so much. He's into pyramid scams as well. This link from his myspace page - http://www.globalwealthtrade.com/toddbentley
        At least he has a product to sell. Then again, he's a known child predator with a myspace page. And according to that page, he has children. I wonder if Lakeland's child protective services would like to hear about that.
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        mikhurst1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        you're clutching at straws...Todd Bentley's clean. Oh, by the way...as long as you're researching Todd so thoroughly, why don't you start listing all the positive things, all the gifts, all the money, all the kids he's rescued from forced military movements, all the people he's fed, and all the time he's freely given to this sick and dieing world? And those are the things that the secular world would recognize. Not to mention the salvations, healings and deliverances he's taken part in.
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        I don't have to clutch at straws. You truly are pathetic. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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        mikhurst1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        You said 2 comments back, "I'm done with you for now, so if you'd like the last word, go ahead..."
        Hmmmm, looks like that turned out to be a lie.
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        Nah, just changed My Mind. Keep toking on that bowl. Then pass it to the left hand side! A friend with Holy Weed is a friend indeed!
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        Just you saying that it doesn't debunk the footage doesn't mean anything. But go ahead and put your fingers in your ears if you like. It seems to be your preferred position.
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        mikhurst1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        re:"But go ahead and put your fingers in your ears..." -> you merely saying you debunked something when you actually didn't, doesn't put me in a position of placing my fingers in my ears. Come back with something concrete, and measure it against the same standards you're demanding of the testimonies brought forth at the Revival. Simple.
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        MereMortal1 month, 2 weeks ago
        
        mik - "Come back with something concrete" > Been there. Done that. Want a t-shirt? Go ahead and scream "LALALALALALALALALA". Everyone who reads these pages can see how pathetic you are.
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